Extra Idiotic Gun Rights Speaking Factors from Republicans (Starring Gabe Evans)


April 29, 2024 02:10 PM UTC

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  • by: Colorado Pols

The 2024 Colorado legislative session is ready to return to a detailed in lower than two weeks (Could 9). Democrats, who preserve majority management in each chambers, are scrambling to complete up some prime legislative priorities. Republicans, who haven’t any actual concepts or coverage aspirations of their very own, proceed to focus their efforts on losing time and attempting to forestall Democrats from doing what voters despatched them to the State Capitol to do: Govern.

Does this face make me look dumb?

Republican lawmakers have been making some very foolish arguments in opposition to principally something Democrats have proposed, however these protestations have gotten notably ridiculous on the subject of laws centered on gun violence prevention (GVP). Third studying debate passed off immediately within the Home of Representatives on SB24-131 (Prohibiting Carrying Firearms in Delicate Areas).

Some Republicans, similar to State Rep. Brandi Bradley (R-Littleton), have usually repeated absurd speaking factors about how weapons really make folks safer (Truth Test: Nope). Others, together with State Rep. Richard Holtorf (R-Akron), proceed to make abject fools of themselves by drawing consideration to their very own lack of ability to securely carry private firearms. When all else fails — and make no mistake, it has — the inevitable closing argument from Republicans against GVP laws at all times leads to the identical place. This yr, it was State Rep. Gabe-ish Evans (R-Adams County) who was entrusted to hold the silly throughout the end line.

Right here’s a few of what Evans needed to say on Friday on the Home Ground throughout second studying debate on SB24-131 (Prohibiting Carrying Firearms in Delicate Areas):

EVANS: Different issues that we’ve heard as we’ve had conversations about this invoice, one of many questions that I requested repeatedly in committee after we had this dialog is, why would somebody with legal intent adjust to this invoice? And I by no means obtained an excellent reply. I requested that most likely 3 or 4 totally different occasions to three or 4 totally different panels of oldsters. Why would someone with legal intent adjust to this invoice? Didn’t get an excellent reply…

And that’s as a result of legal guidelines don’t cease criminals from breaking the regulation. Criminals don’t comply with the regulation. [Pols emphasis] If we’re speaking about delicate areas, we’re speaking about retaining of us protected on school campuses. Anyone with intent after deliberation isn’t going to comply with this regulation…

Some criminals won’t comply with this regulation, so we shouldn’t hassle attempting. This “argument” inevitably surfaces every time the legislature debates GVP measures. It’s at all times dumb, however it sounds notably ridiculous coming from Evans, who’s a former police officer (which is one thing he not often fails to say). If you happen to comply with this logic to its inevitable conclusion, you finally should acknowledge that there isn’t any level in having any legal guidelines — not to mention using law enforcement officials to implement them.

Is there a type of “erase what I simply stated” buttons on this microphone?

Homicide is unlawful in Colorado, however folks nonetheless kill different folks. We would as properly simply decriminalize homicide and open up the jails!

You cool with that, Gabe?

In fact, you may apply this “argument” to principally any situation. You’re not imagined to foul your opponent in a basketball recreation, however fouls are nonetheless known as usually; the reply isn’t to only shrug and throw out the rulebook.

All legal guidelines are a part of a social contract requiring the final assumption that folks in a society conform to comply with a shared set of pointers. In case your customary earlier than passing a brand new regulation is that everybody agrees to comply with that regulation…properly, you’re losing your time usually. If we’re not going to make GVP legal guidelines as a result of some folks may break them, why hassle with any legal guidelines? Hell, why hassle even having a state legislature?

Evans, BTW, can be at present operating for a seat in Congress in CO-08. A man who doesn’t assume we should always hassle making legal guidelines at a state stage desires to go to Washington D.C. to…what, not make legal guidelines at a federal stage? (though that’s just about the state of the U.S. Home of Representatives at this level)

These arguments are foolish sufficient for one man and one situation, however Evans was not content material to only repeat the identical idiotic argument and depart it at that. He took it to a special stage of dumb.

Gabe Evans has been consuming an excessive amount of Brawndo (look it up).

Evans’s feedback included rants on claims that gun violence really will increase after a state passes GVP laws and that persons are safer in communities the place there are extra weapons (each of that are fully unfaithful and have been debunked repeatedly), earlier than claiming that we should always have MORE weapons principally as a result of folks like them:

EVANS: Do folks purchase weapons and that makes us much less protected? Or do folks really feel much less protected after which they exit and so they purchase a gun? Nicely guess what? We’ve obtained a lot of polls that give us the reply to this. A Pew Analysis research discovered that 91% of individuals once they bought a firearm, stated they bought that firearm as a result of they felt much less protected and since buying a firearm, coaching with that firearm, studying how you can personally defend themselves made them really feel extra protected. 91% of oldsters who bought a firearm stated they did so as a result of they felt unsafe, and buying that firearm made them really feel extra protected.

This final half is totally different. Evans will get misplaced in his personal dumb rabbit gap by insisting that what actually issues is that folks really feel protected — not whether or not or not they’re really safer. There are not any reliable factual arguments to help the concept extra weapons make folks extra protected — the reality could be very a lot the alternative.

Evans may cease right here, however he’s compelled to return to his, ‘Why have legal guidelines?’ logic by pointing to a controversial 2005 United States Supreme Courtroom case known as City of Fort Rock v. Gonzalez through which SCOTUS dominated {that a} city and its police division couldn’t be sued for failing to implement a restraining order (which, on this case, finally led to the homicide of three kids).

EVANS: And in reality, that precept comes from a Supreme Courtroom case that got here out of Fort Rock…Fort Rock v. Gonzalez says that the federal government…the police division doesn’t have…common legal responsibility. They aren’t typically accountable for all the things that goes improper in society. They aren’t typically accountable for each unhealthy occasion that happens. It’s a U.S. Supreme Courtroom case. First responders, regulation enforcement, protectors solely have particular legal responsibility. They’re solely responsible for particular conditions that they find out about and are able to intervene.

So Senate Invoice 24-131 actually damages folks’s sense of security, folks’s understanding of how you can defend themselves in gentle of circumstances like Fort Rock v. Gonzalez, which clearly states that there isn’t any there isn’t any common legal responsibility for the federal government to have the ability to defend particular person human beings. Particular person human beings are accountable to guard themselves. It’s a U.S. Supreme Courtroom case. You possibly can go look it up. [Pols emphasis]

Wait, what? Evans may need to go “look it up” himself, as a result of he has the purpose of this story nearly fully backward.

If you happen to’re not conversant in the background of Fort Rock v. Gonzalez, that is the story of a horrific crime and a failure to make use of a regulation successfully — not a failure of a regulation in itself. As NBC Information reported in 2018:

Jessica Lenahan has gone via a mom’s worst nightmare, and all of it passed off on one evening in June 1999. A brand new documentary portrays her ordeal.

The Fort Rock, Colorado, mom of 4 had efficiently obtained a everlasting restraining order in opposition to her emotionally abusive husband, Simon Gonzales, earlier that month, requiring him to stay a minimum of 100 yards from her and her 4 kids, besides throughout specified visitation time. Regardless of that, he took his three daughters in violation of the restraining order. Lenahan frantically known as the police for hours; they advised her there was nothing they might do and to allow them to know if the ladies didn’t come dwelling.

Within the early morning hours, Gonzales drove to the police station and began capturing; the police shot again. They discovered he had killed his three daughters; the our bodies of Rebecca, 10, Katheryn, 9, and Leslie, 7, had been present in his van.

Hmmm…which quantity is bigger?

The problem right here was concerning the failure of Fort Rock regulation enforcement officers to successfully implement a restraining order. No one was saying that restraining orders had been a dumb device as a result of one man refused to abide by the regulation.

Bear in mind, Evans is a former police officer who usually reminds folks that he’s a former police officer. In his blind opposition to any GVP laws, which teams just like the NRA and RMGO demand of Republicans — Evans leads to a questionable spot: 

Does Gabe Evans oppose ALL gun legal guidelines?

As a result of when you take his logic at face worth, that’s the top conclusion. Or as Evans really stated, out loud:

EVANS: As a result of authorities isn’t typically accountable to guard residents from each unhealthy factor that occurs in society. So once more, going again to the unique query that I requested, why would someone with legal intent adjust to this invoice? I can’t discover any purpose that someone with legal intent would adjust to this, with this invoice.

However the second premise of this invoice, 24-131, is that there are locations that might be made extra protected by prohibiting firearms. Of us, once more, the info doesn’t bear that out. 85% of mass shootings occurred in locations the place weapons had been already prohibited. Once more, the one individual that’s going to adjust to the regulation that claims, don’t carry a gun right here is someone that’s already regulation abiding, someone that’s not regulation abiding goes to disregard that signal, ignore that directive, and convey a firearm there, particularly as I requested initially if they’ve legal intent. If, as within the case of the UCCS capturing, after deliberation and with intent, they meant to commit a criminal offense with that firearm. Does having delicate areas that prohibit firearms make of us extra protected?

Possibly Evans can create a business for his congressional marketing campaign through which he reminds voters that “legal guidelines aren’t 100% efficient” and “cops don’t have that can assist you.”

It nearly doesn’t sound bizarre in any respect once you say it that approach. [insert severe eye-roll]

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